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Author Shawn Church
Categories TOV Road Test, RSX
Create Date September 25, 2002 11:09
Last Update March 19, 2003 22:00
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RSX Type-S - Where the sequel is better than the original, and balance is the defining term

When I first got into this car, the strongest statement it made to me was not with its engine, or its handling. It was the new sense of refinement and quality that really grabbed my attention. While the old Integra was certainly a very solid and reliable car, the interior was not luxurious by any means and the noise levels could grow tiresome at times. In comparison, the RSX-S is improved in every way. The ride is better damped and controlled; the noise levels are reduced and what you still hear has a more refined sound; the feeling of the materials in the interior - dash, seats, carpet, etc. - are all a step up (or maybe two). Acura has truly made the RSX fit into a luxury lineup, something that could not be said of the 3rd generation Integra.

Perhaps more importantly, however, this new level of refinement and luxury did not come at the expense of the fun and performance that the Integra was famous for. The K20 engine sings to the stratosphere when you push it, much like the B-series in the Integra. The difference is that the K20 also offers significantly improved low end torque. The tranny still shifts sweetly (o.k., not quite as good as the Integra's), but now Acura has given us a 6-speed for more relaxed motorway cruising. The chassis is still nimble and lithe, but if anything its handles better than the GS-R with improved stability, less body roll and better steering response.

From an enthusiast's standpoint, this car has at least as much potential as the Integra GS-R did. The K20 engine has tremendous upside, as we discovered when we dyno tested it. This engine, thanks in part to i-VTEC, superior cylinder head design, and increased displacement, will make the formidable and famous B-series look a little weak in a couple of years. The suspension design is quite good with excellent geometry and control. Better springs and struts, and tire upgrades will improve things just as they did on the Integra. Acura has also given the RSX a significant brake upgrade over the GS-R, negating the need, in my opinion, for upsized rotors. Just put on some better pads and some cooling ducts and you're ready for track days.

Complaints? They are few. While the i-VTEC equipped K20 is a definitive step up from the B-series engine, Acura hasn't quite gotten the torque curve right. There is a distinct drop in output from 5k to 6k rpm. We felt it on the road and confirmed it on the dyno. See the Dyno Plot to the right.This likely due to the specifications on the low rpm cam lobes and the intake manifold design, combined with the fuel and ignition tuning. Early experimentation with modifications and ECU tuning have shown an ability to alleviate part of the problem, but short of changing the cams or manifold, we may have to live with it. And of course, let's not forget tires. The Type-S is a sports/luxury designation. The Michelin all-season tires on the RSX-S do not fit with that mission. Either find a better tire, or at least give enthusiasts in sunny climates the option of a no cost summer tire fitment from the factory - Acura are you listening?

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RSX Type-S on Deal's Gap - Part 1

We see how the RSX handles the twisty roads of US 129, Deal's Gap.

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RSX Type-S on Deal's Gap - Part 2

We see how the RSX handles the twisty roads of US 129, Deal's Gap.

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Chattahoochee National Forest Roads

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12-27-2002 23:50
why cant i view the video's?   (Score: 1, Normal)
Dima126
10-01-2002 12:46
High flow intake   (Score: 1, Normal)
mrfoxman
10-01-2002 14:48
Re: High flow intake   (Score: 1, Normal)
RyanDL
10-12-2002 10:55
Re: High flow intake   (Score: 1, Normal)
zirconc
09-28-2002 21:41
What about the 03 Accord coupe V-6   (Score: 1, Normal)
ZeroA
09-28-2002 22:43
RSX-S is more athletic, Accord more refined   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
10-08-2002 21:42
Re: RSX-S is more athletic, Accord more refined   (Score: 1, Normal)
Spark-S
09-29-2002 02:26
Re: What about the 03 Accord coupe V-6   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenB
09-29-2002 03:05
Re: What about the 03 Accord coupe V-6   (Score: 1, Normal)
mugen_unlimited
09-30-2002 02:33
Re: What about the 03 Accord coupe V-6   (Score: 1, Normal)
Brillo
09-30-2002 19:32
Re: What about the 03 Accord coupe V-6   (Score: 1, Normal)
Ronin
10-01-2002 15:09
Re: What about the 03 Accord coupe V-6   (Score: 1, Normal)
ZeroA
10-02-2002 19:28
Re: What about the 03 Accord coupe V-6   (Score: 1, Normal)
Ronin
09-26-2002 11:31
video music?   (Score: 1, Normal)
TonyEX
09-26-2002 11:48
Re: Lack of LSD   (Score: 1, Normal)
RyanDL
09-26-2002 15:17
Re: Lack of LSD   (Score: 1, Normal)
TonyEX
09-27-2002 16:23
Re: Lack of LSD   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenB
09-27-2002 17:04
Re: Lack of LSD   (Score: 1, Normal)
TonyEX
09-27-2002 20:32
Petition Honda for the Type R   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenB
09-28-2002 17:10
Re: Petition Honda for the Type R   (Score: 1, Normal)
TonyEX
09-28-2002 22:21
Re: Petition Honda for the Type R   (Score: 1, Normal)
HappaSaiyan
09-29-2002 11:09
There is a Petition   (Score: 1, Normal)
Vitt
10-07-2002 08:08
Re: Lack of LSD   (Score: 1, Normal)
rbaccord02
10-07-2002 22:04
Re: Lack of LSD   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenB
09-26-2002 08:26
About the torque drop out...   (Score: 1, Normal)
quadlamp
09-26-2002 11:04
Re: About the torque drop out...   (Score: 1, Normal)
notyper
09-26-2002 12:16
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
Vitt
09-26-2002 13:26
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
notyper
09-26-2002 16:44
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
Danny1
09-26-2002 19:03
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
notyper
09-27-2002 07:43
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
Danny1
09-27-2002 23:02
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenB
09-28-2002 00:38
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
notyper
09-28-2002 03:21
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenB
10-01-2002 21:52
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
ZeroA
10-02-2002 09:46
Re: ECU   (Score: 1, Normal)
Danny1
09-27-2002 10:43
Re: About the torque drop out...   (Score: 1, Normal)
quadlamp
09-27-2002 12:06
Re: About the torque drop out...   (Score: 1, Normal)
notyper
09-27-2002 15:24
What is the high flow intake on the dyno?   (Score: 1, Normal)
Brillo
09-30-2002 09:53
Re: What is the high flow intake on the dyno?   (Score: 1, Normal)
RyanDL
09-25-2002 16:23
I think I'll move to Georgia   (Score: 1, Normal)
neilap
09-25-2002 17:16
Re: I think I'll move to Georgia   (Score: 1, Normal)
floundericiousMI
09-25-2002 18:30
my S2000's maiden voyage was on those roads   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
09-26-2002 06:51
Re: my S2000's maiden voyage was on those roads   (Score: 1, Normal)
floundericiousMI
09-26-2002 18:46
Re: I think I'll move to Georgia   (Score: 1, Normal)
bradmathisen
09-26-2002 07:43
Re: I think I'll move to Georgia   (Score: 1, Normal)
MugenDX
09-25-2002 13:11
Complaints   (Score: 1, Normal)
ldvknight
09-25-2002 13:36
do you own an RSX-S?   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
09-25-2002 18:35
Re: do you own an RSX-S?   (Score: 1, Normal)
shingles
09-25-2002 19:39
FR advantage   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
09-25-2002 19:55
Re: CL-S6 project car?   (Score: 1, Normal)
flash27
09-26-2002 10:05
Re: FR advantage   (Score: 1, Normal)
shingles
09-26-2002 14:58
Re: do you own an RSX-S?   (Score: 1, Normal)
ldvknight
09-25-2002 16:03
tame = refined =P (n/t)   (Score: 1, Normal)
iNteGRaz92
09-26-2002 14:12
don't understand what's the matter with tyres   (Score: 1, Normal)
danielgr
09-26-2002 14:45
Re: don't understand what's the matter with tyres   (Score: 1, Normal)
RyanDL
09-25-2002 13:17
Great vids...I liked the RSX-S that I drove   (Score: 1, Normal)
floundericiousMI
09-25-2002 15:32
Re: Great vids...I liked the RSX-S that I drove   (Score: 1, Normal)
Tuan
09-25-2002 23:27
Re: Great vids...I liked the RSX-S that I drove   (Score: 1, Normal)
MugenDX
09-26-2002 08:30
we drove the Si on Mulholland   (Score: 1, Normal)
JeffX
09-25-2002 19:34
Good Job Guys   (Score: 1, Normal)
KenB
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