[home][rumors and news][model release matrix][tov motorsports][desktop calendar][exhaust notes][tov forums][links][search][sponsors][garage][login]

Tire Rack Upgrade Garage
 Search for a Dealer:
 Canadian Flag US Flag
 Honda Acura
 ZIP  
Acura
There are currently no active Acura promotions
Honda
There are currently no active Honda promotions
Spied in Southern Europe! 11th gen Civic Type R
More.......................
American Honda reports June 2021 and 2nd quarter sales results
More.......................
Official PR Photos of the 2022 Civic Hatchback
More.......................
Honda is revealing the 2022 Civic Hatchback tonight live on YouTube
More.......................
Just hitting the dealer lots: 2021 Acura TLX Type S
More.......................
2022 MDX Type S Breaks Cover as Acura Race Team Departs for Pikes Peak Hill Climb
More.......................
All-New 2022 Civic Sedan Arrives at Honda Dealerships Today, Raising Compact Sedan Game
More.......................
American Honda reports May 2021 sales results
More.......................
Today's Reading Links --> Re: C&D: Tesla Model 3 Not Cheaper in Maintenance
Join Discussion......
TLX --> Re: Type-S Review…
Join Discussion......
NSX --> Re: 2022 NSX Type S
Join Discussion......
Type R --> Re: 2020 Civic Type R Revealed
Join Discussion......
Spy Shots --> Re: 2022 NSX spotted ?
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> 2022 Honda Pilot awaits new base trim, so it starts at $40,285 for now
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Honda & Acura EV Rumor
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: Toyota GR 86 6sp+RWD pretty cool
Join Discussion......
Professional Motorsports --> Re: F1 - 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix - Race Spoilers
Join Discussion......
General Talk --> Re: ACURA at NYC Auto Show 2021??
Join Discussion......
Videos --> Re: Why Hyundai Engines FAIL
Join Discussion......
ILX --> Re: spy shots of the new ILX?
Join Discussion......
TLX --> Re: 2nd Generation TLX Reviews
Join Discussion......
Ridgeline - General Talk --> Re: Honda Ridgeline/Passport/Pilot/MDX/TLX ZF 9AT
Join Discussion......
Type R --> Veloster N DCT vs Civic Type R
Join Discussion......
AN: Civic Type R in 2004. Or 2005. And other Future Product info
 Date: August 19, 2003 10:31
 Submitted by:  JeffX
 Source: Automotive News, 18 August, 2003
 Credibility Rating: 6


In the latest Automotive News, there's a "Spotlight on Future Products" feature which focuses on "Asia Brands" this week. Some points of potential interest follow:
  • Civic Type R - Honda is said to be still mulling whether we deserve the Type R or not (the answer is easy: YES!). And if we get it, whether it will come as 2004 or 2005 model (full model change is set for MY2006). Now, if I may weigh in on this, despite all the rumors that keep surfacing, I'm still a little skeptical that we'll get this iteration of the Civic Type R at all, but if it does come I imagine we won't see it until calendar year 2004 at the earliest. Several 2004 Civic Sis wearing "Factory Performance" badging have already been spotted and photographed in Torrance. It appears the photographs were taken inside a secured facility so we will not be posting them here. Also mentioned in the Civic update is that the widely criticized Mac Struts will return with the 2006 redesign, considering the fact that the Civic platform is being used for more rugged applications these days (Element, CR-V).

  • S2000 - Now in general, Automotive News is a very credible source of information, but now I'm a little concerned due to this comment regarding the S2000:"an increase to 220hp is possible this fall.". Nothing else is mentioned.

  • Fit - AN says the current generation won't be coming here. But if Honda decides to create a third brand, the next generation Fit could be sold here in '06 or '07 to compete with Scion.
  • CR-V - a power boost for 2005 is expected, FMC in 2007
  • Pickup - There's not much new mentioned. In fact, it's all the same stuff that's already been mentioned here. To summarize: MY06 launch, Pilot-based, 4-door, light duty (unit-body), likely the same AWD drivetrain as the Pilot.

  • Stream - AN contends that the Stream won't arrive here (likely to be sold as the Latitude) until Model Year 2007 at the earliest.
  • Odyssey - The FMC for '05 is said to put the "Toyota Sienna and Nissan Quest back in their places". The Odyssey will be slightly upsized with a major interior upgrade.


The remaining Honda models will see little notable change for a while.

On the Acura side of the house, there's a bit of interesting news
  • RSX - quite notable is the mention of "midcycle changes" for the 2004 model year which "include freshened front and rear fascias and a 220-hp Type S" (could that be a typo? do they really mean Type R?). The redesign is slated for the 2006 model year, which seems to be a suspect claim, because it would indicate that the current model cycle would only run 4 years. By the way, all of their info on the changes for the '04 model year are in direct contradiction with (sealed until 9/1) information that we have.

  • TL - AN claims the '04 will have a 3.4L motor with more power than the current TL Type S motor. At least they got part of it right.

  • RL - AN says the '05 will go on sale this spring, and there's still no V-8. Instead it will supposedly arrive with either a 300hp 3.8L V-6 or a hybrid combining a 250-hp 3.0L V-6 with a "160hp motor". It's hard to say what my gut feel is on this, but I'm skeptical that Acura would use a 3.8L when they could easily get 300hp from a 3.5L.

  • NSX - AN says the full model change will occur for the '05 model year, bringing a larger displacement motor, lighter chassis components and "possibly aluminum body panels". The plans for a hybrid version are said to have been "shelved".

  • RDX - based on a modified version of the upcoming Civic platform, the RDX's debut is predicted for MY07

  • MDX - set to soldier on for two more model years, the '06 will likely carry the long-rumoured 3.8L V-6.

  • TSX - no news

  • CL - still dead with no hint of revival in the foreseeable future


Last edited by JeffX on August 19, 2003 10:39

Click Here to Submit Your Comments

Viewing Threshold (What is this?)

[fancy] [flat] [simple]
Subject Thread Originator Replies Last Post
  2007 Latitude should be a new model
danielgr 25
  TSX - no news???
Teirisius 4
  Sabre or Inspire = RL??
Cyde1 0
  The new 3.0 I-vtec V6... ...for RL?
Cyde1 0
  Acura Sports Coupe?
zapata 0
  Fit/Jazz
George Madison 0
  2004 Acura TL
JML 3
  S2000 Increase to 220 hp?
95GSR_99 5
  Question for Jeff
RaX 1
  ehhhhh, what is this?
blacksheep 8
  Another RSX-R source?
s2ktaxi 1
  "midcycle changes" = fall or spring?
ym1 1
  Ay Ay Ay... No Mas El Preludio
TonyEX 0
  2004 Acura TL
JML 2
  Hmm CTR
ivtec105 6
  How Reliable is this source??
ym1 1
  The next-gen NSX, finally a date with destiny
JMU R1 0
2022 Acura MDX Specs and Features
Read Article....................
2022 Honda Civic Design Story, a video by Honda
Read Article....................
Photo Gallery: 2021 Acura TLX Advance
Read Article....................
Photo Gallery: 2021 Acura TLX - Details and Cutaways
Read Article....................
Photo Gallery: 2021 Acura TLX A-Spec
Read Article....................
TOV Photo Gallery: 2020 Chicago Auto Show
Read Article....................
Contact TOV | Submit Your Article | Submit Your Link | Advertise | TOV Shop | Events | Our Sponsors | TOV Archives
Copyright © 2020 Velocitech Inc. All information contained herein remains the property of Velocitech Inc.
The Temple of VTEC is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Co., Inc. TOV Policies and Guidelines - Credits - Privacy Policy
29